Well, Bernie Sanders met with the people at his Town Hall Meeting On HR 3200*.
Some of the points that he discussed with the people were:
1. The alleged "Death Panels".
To which Bernie stated:
"Let me tell you a thing or two about the so-called 'death panels.' They can't take it out because it ain't in there," and "but do you really think that in the United States of America we would have a president who would say we should kill off old people?"
Well Bernie, this bill is so poorly written that the presence of Death Panels may or may not be in there, couched in confusing and contradictory language. However, one thing is clear, the Health Care Commissioner (one individual) will have actual control over the public health care together with how much and what kind of treatment we will receive. The duties of this commissioner start on Page 42, line 3 of the bill and end on Page 48, line 24. The power this individual will wield will be awesome. The language of this bill is so nebulous that the constitutional challenges will begin, almost immediately and people, who are wrongfully denied health care because of this confusing language, will be dying awaiting a court's interpretation as to what this albatross really says. This will be among the first of the waiting lists upon which, people seeking health care, will die.
As for the question asked at the end of his statement, "but do you really think that in the United States of America we would have a president who would say we should kill off old people?", in consideration of the liberal/progressive's stand firmly FOR abortion among a population that has the rest of their lives to live and become productive, I would answer this question with a resounding YES! If the humanistic liberal progressives are willing to send unborn babies to their death, without a thought, I'm SURE that they would have no problem with old folks who are in the sunset of their lives. This is a no-brainer Bernie. This is one of the pillars of the "Complete Lives System", a philosophy that is embraced by Ezekiel Emanuel, President Obama's White House Health Care policy adviser and brother of Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel. Rahm is, also, an advocate of "Merit Based Health Care" in which a relative value is placed on human beings, for purposes of health care dispensation, in accordance with their ability to be productive in our society.
Here are some of Ezekiel's thoughts, expressed in the January, 2009 issue (Volume 373, Issue 9661) of The Lancet:
"Some people wrongly suggest that allocation can be based purely on scientific or clinical facts, often using the term “medical need”. There are no value-free medical criteria for allocation."
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"Consideration of the importance of complete lives also supports modifying the youngest-first principle by prioritizing adolescents and young adults over infants. Adolescents have received substantial education and parental care, investments that will be wasted without a complete life. Infants, by contrast, have not yet received these investments. Similarly, adolescence brings with it a developed personality capable of forming and valuing long-term plans whose fulfillment requires a complete life."
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"When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated."
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"Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years. Treating 65-year-olds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more life-years is not."
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"Accepting the complete lives system for health care as a whole would be premature. We must first reduce waste and increase spending."
The entire article may be downloaded by CLICKING HERE.
I thank the proprietor of the website http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/complete-lives-system/ for providing this non-copyrighted, information.
2. Medicare, to which Bernie stated:
"I have heard people in Vermont and around the country say, 'Get the government out of health care,'"
"How many people here think we should abolish Medicare? Medicare is a single-payer government program."
Bernie, this is more political theater. Medicare is going broke and will be collapsing under its own weight. Now, there is a proposal to take $500 Billion from medicare to, partially, fund HR 3200. There are some, misinformed, people out there that, mistakenly, believe that Medicare is safe and sequestered away from the ravages of HR 3200. THINK AGAIN, Medicare will undergo some fundamental changes under Obama Care (HR 3200). They're in the bill.
3. Bernie asserts that taxes haven't gone up.
However there is a small matter of the Federal Tobacco Tax that caused the price of tobacco to double overnight. While there are those among us that would claim that Obama gets a free pass on his promise not to raise taxes on those who earn under $250,000 because of the evils of smoking, remember, he still broke his campaign promise. His ambitious and expensive agenda will require more revenue than merely raising the taxes on the rich, and his tobacco tax has already greased the slope for more taxes to come on those who earn under $250,000.
Only the extremely gullible would believe that, between the Stimulus, Cap and Trade and HR 3200, that our Federal tax structure will remain the same.
Think people! THINK, THINK, THINK.
The used car salesmen are out in force selling you HR 3200. Don't buy a car that you haven't seen.
By the way, how do you feel about the Government being able to rummage around in your bank accounts, taking what they believe you owe them. IT'S IN THERE! Pg 59: SEC. 163. ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION HC Bill lines 21-24.
*http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20090816/NEWS04/908160398
Some of the points that he discussed with the people were:
1. The alleged "Death Panels".
To which Bernie stated:
"Let me tell you a thing or two about the so-called 'death panels.' They can't take it out because it ain't in there," and "but do you really think that in the United States of America we would have a president who would say we should kill off old people?"
Well Bernie, this bill is so poorly written that the presence of Death Panels may or may not be in there, couched in confusing and contradictory language. However, one thing is clear, the Health Care Commissioner (one individual) will have actual control over the public health care together with how much and what kind of treatment we will receive. The duties of this commissioner start on Page 42, line 3 of the bill and end on Page 48, line 24. The power this individual will wield will be awesome. The language of this bill is so nebulous that the constitutional challenges will begin, almost immediately and people, who are wrongfully denied health care because of this confusing language, will be dying awaiting a court's interpretation as to what this albatross really says. This will be among the first of the waiting lists upon which, people seeking health care, will die.
As for the question asked at the end of his statement, "but do you really think that in the United States of America we would have a president who would say we should kill off old people?", in consideration of the liberal/progressive's stand firmly FOR abortion among a population that has the rest of their lives to live and become productive, I would answer this question with a resounding YES! If the humanistic liberal progressives are willing to send unborn babies to their death, without a thought, I'm SURE that they would have no problem with old folks who are in the sunset of their lives. This is a no-brainer Bernie. This is one of the pillars of the "Complete Lives System", a philosophy that is embraced by Ezekiel Emanuel, President Obama's White House Health Care policy adviser and brother of Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel. Rahm is, also, an advocate of "Merit Based Health Care" in which a relative value is placed on human beings, for purposes of health care dispensation, in accordance with their ability to be productive in our society.
Here are some of Ezekiel's thoughts, expressed in the January, 2009 issue (Volume 373, Issue 9661) of The Lancet:
"Some people wrongly suggest that allocation can be based purely on scientific or clinical facts, often using the term “medical need”. There are no value-free medical criteria for allocation."
~~~~
"Consideration of the importance of complete lives also supports modifying the youngest-first principle by prioritizing adolescents and young adults over infants. Adolescents have received substantial education and parental care, investments that will be wasted without a complete life. Infants, by contrast, have not yet received these investments. Similarly, adolescence brings with it a developed personality capable of forming and valuing long-term plans whose fulfillment requires a complete life."
~~~~
"When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated."
~~~~
"Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years. Treating 65-year-olds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more life-years is not."
~~~~
"Accepting the complete lives system for health care as a whole would be premature. We must first reduce waste and increase spending."
The entire article may be downloaded by CLICKING HERE.
I thank the proprietor of the website http://blog.jonolan.net/politics/complete-lives-system/ for providing this non-copyrighted, information.
2. Medicare, to which Bernie stated:
"I have heard people in Vermont and around the country say, 'Get the government out of health care,'"
"How many people here think we should abolish Medicare? Medicare is a single-payer government program."
Bernie, this is more political theater. Medicare is going broke and will be collapsing under its own weight. Now, there is a proposal to take $500 Billion from medicare to, partially, fund HR 3200. There are some, misinformed, people out there that, mistakenly, believe that Medicare is safe and sequestered away from the ravages of HR 3200. THINK AGAIN, Medicare will undergo some fundamental changes under Obama Care (HR 3200). They're in the bill.
3. Bernie asserts that taxes haven't gone up.
However there is a small matter of the Federal Tobacco Tax that caused the price of tobacco to double overnight. While there are those among us that would claim that Obama gets a free pass on his promise not to raise taxes on those who earn under $250,000 because of the evils of smoking, remember, he still broke his campaign promise. His ambitious and expensive agenda will require more revenue than merely raising the taxes on the rich, and his tobacco tax has already greased the slope for more taxes to come on those who earn under $250,000.
Only the extremely gullible would believe that, between the Stimulus, Cap and Trade and HR 3200, that our Federal tax structure will remain the same.
Think people! THINK, THINK, THINK.
The used car salesmen are out in force selling you HR 3200. Don't buy a car that you haven't seen.
By the way, how do you feel about the Government being able to rummage around in your bank accounts, taking what they believe you owe them. IT'S IN THERE! Pg 59: SEC. 163. ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION HC Bill lines 21-24.
*http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20090816/NEWS04/908160398
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